starless
发表于 2012-11-29 09:52:03
shoot somebody who'd outdrew you
"outdrew you"引起了你的注意.
这里表现的是嫉妒.
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And it's not a cry that you hear at night.
cry不是哭泣,晚上嚎的是啥?(不是狼人,jeff buckley版本的话,cry是叫床)
a cold and a broken halleluyah的另一个理解是在颤抖中嘶哑的"哈利路亚".
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这首歌使用了大量圣经的典故,可以说从头到尾都是.所以要翻译好必须了解圣经.
但这首歌又不是宗教歌曲,圣经只是一本书而已.莱纳德科恩是犹太人,但在精神层面上是基督徒(他不是犹太教徒)
hallelujah是希伯来语,意思是荣耀上主(glory to the lord).
这首歌先从大卫王的赞美诗开始(hallelujah),接着是作者开始对表面上完美的赞歌进行剖析:
saw her bathing on the roof,指的是大卫王在阳台上看见bathsheba洗澡(圣经故事):
Bathsheba was the wife of Uriah the Hittite, and afterward of David, by whom she gave birth to Solomon, who succeeded David as king. (United Kingdom of Israel and Judah).
Bathsheba, Solomon, Nathan and Abishag tend to aging David, c. 1435
The story of David's seduction of Bathsheba, told in 2 Samuel 11, is omitted in Chronicles. The story is told that David, while walking on the roof of his palace, saw Bathsheba, who was then the wife of Uriah, having a bath. He immediately desired her and later made her pregnant.
In an effort to conceal his sin, David summoned Uriah from the army (with whom he was on campaign) in the hope that Uriah would re-consummate his marriage and think that the child was his. Uriah was unwilling to violate the ancient kingdom rule applying to warriors in active service. Rather than go home to his own bed, he preferred to remain with the palace troops.
After repeated efforts to convince Uriah to have sex with Bathsheba, the king gave the order to his general, Joab, that Uriah should be placed in the front lines of the battle, where it was the most dangerous, and left to the hands of the enemy. Ironically, David had Uriah himself carry the message that ordered his death. After Uriah was dead, David made the now widowed Bathsheba his wife.
David's action was displeasing to the Lord, who accordingly sent Nathan the prophet to reprove the king.
After relating the parable of the rich man who took away the one little ewe lamb of his poor neighbor (II Samuel 12:1-6), and exciting the king's anger against the unrighteous act, the prophet applied the case directly to David's action with regard to Bathsheba.
The king at once confessed his sin and expressed sincere repentance. Bathsheba's child by David was struck with a severe illness and died a few days after birth, which the king accepted as his punishment.
Nathan also noted that David's house would be cursed with turmoil because of this murder. This came to pass years later when one of David's much-loved sons, Absalom, led an insurrection that plunged the kingdom into civil war. Moreover, to manifest his claim to be the new king, Absalom had sexual intercourse in public with ten of his father's concubines, which could be considered a direct, tenfold divine retribution for David's taking the woman of another man.
In David's old age, Bathsheba secured the succession to the throne of her son Solomon, instead of David's eldest surviving son Adonijah. (1 Kings 1:11-31).
Some commentators have written that Bathsheba may have written at least part of Proverbs 31 as suggested by the postulated connections between King Lemuel aka King Solomon.
The story of David's adultery sets up the context for the penitential Psalm 51 (50), also known as "Miserere" ("Have mercy on me, O God").
经典的部分是:She tied you to her kitchen chair,And she broke your throne and she cut your hair.
And from your lips she drew the Hallelujah.
cut hair的典故指的是delilah和samson.samson拥有超人的力量,但他喜欢上了delilah,delilah趁他睡觉剪掉他的头发,使他丧失力量.这里的意境只有熟悉圣经故事的人才能体会吧?上帝给与samson(参孙?)超人的力量,而爱情让他失去了神力.爱情=上帝的恩宠,所以,赞美主(hallelujah!)
山菊
发表于 2012-11-29 09:59:35
starless 发表于 2012-11-28 20:52 static/image/common/back.gif
shoot somebody who'd outdrew you
"outdrew you"引起了你的注意.
太长知识了,看来不只中国人爱用典故噢~~~谢谢!{:209:}
欢迎常来!
{:237:}
Webb
发表于 2012-11-30 20:35:47
本帖最后由 Webb 于 2012-11-30 22:37 编辑
山菊 发表于 2012-11-29 11:59 static/image/common/back.gif
太长知识了,看来不只中国人爱用典故噢~~~谢谢!
欢迎常来!
跟着课代表一起长见识,呵呵.
Webb
发表于 2012-11-30 20:37:25
Webb 发表于 2012-11-30 22:35 static/image/common/back.gif
跟着课代表一起长见识,呵呵.
俺就是"抛砖引玉"这个成语里面的砖,呵呵.
山菊
发表于 2012-12-1 06:36:17
Webb 发表于 2012-11-30 07:37 static/image/common/back.gif
俺就是"抛砖引玉"这个成语里面的砖,呵呵.
错!
俺才是那块砖呀{:213:}
容易
发表于 2012-12-1 07:59:57
starless 发表于 2012-11-29 09:52 static/image/common/back.gif
shoot somebody who'd outdrew you
"outdrew you"引起了你的注意.
总算有人说到点子上了。 前头偶看 @Highway @不爱吱声 说的已经晕眩了----- 这个叫做“爱情”????这不是描述大卫的那段奸情,偷看别人老婆洗澡进而陷害人家老公霸占妇女的那段么?:dizzy:
Highway
发表于 2012-12-1 09:19:06
本帖最后由 Highway 于 2012-12-1 09:21 编辑
容易 发表于 2012-12-1 07:59 static/image/common/back.gif
总算有人说到点子上了。 前头偶看 @Highway @不爱吱声 说的已经晕眩了----- 这个叫做“爱情”????这 ...
同学,对大卫同学还是客气点好,要不哪天犹太人暗杀了你。
大卫同志是以色列国太祖高皇帝(一说是二任),是个帅的一塌糊涂的美男(八个轧叔捆一块都比不过人家),女人被他非礼一下能激动的颤栗38年。米开朗基罗给大卫塑的雕像乃人类史上之瑰宝,至今还矗立在那里接受万民瞻仰。
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-fxWqeOaX1F8/TtA34JSjOOI/AAAAAAAAEc8/CbAwx7K52BE/David_von_Michelangelo-censored.jpg
沅湘
发表于 2012-12-22 23:15:44
本帖最后由 沅湘 于 2012-12-23 09:01 编辑
Webb 发表于 2012-11-30 07:37 static/image/common/back.gif
俺就是"抛砖引玉"这个成语里面的砖,呵呵.
And remember when I moved with you?
And the holy dove was moving too
And every breath we drew was Hallelujah
还记得当我与你“动作”的时候
仿佛圣灵也(与我们同在)一齐“运动”(极乐世界的感觉)
甚至我们的每一次呼吸都是哈利路亚(老爽了。。。)
主题高尚,内容必然高尚。像你这样,见字思淫还真有点好笑。
再说,move这个词在其语义史上根本就没有性暗示。按照你的淫心理解,
这句卖内衣的广告词“When it moves, it moves with you!" ,人家都是要
你那种所谓“爽”的感觉。
starless
发表于 2013-1-30 18:31:06
本帖最后由 starless 于 2013-1-30 18:32 编辑
这个,原作者很明显就是赤裸裸歌唱性爱,不算暗示吧.
小剪子
发表于 2013-1-30 19:14:05
山菊 发表于 2012-12-1 06:36 static/image/common/back.gif
错!
俺才是那块砖呀
俺是砖厂的{:191:}
小剪子
发表于 2013-1-30 19:15:03
容易 发表于 2012-12-1 07:59 static/image/common/back.gif
总算有人说到点子上了。 前头偶看 @Highway @不爱吱声 说的已经晕眩了----- 这个叫做“爱情”????这 ...
容易MM也知道不少典故啊{:237:}
不爱吱声
发表于 2013-2-3 23:08:15
本帖最后由 不爱吱声 于 2013-2-3 09:23 编辑
容易 发表于 2012-11-30 17:59 static/image/common/back.gif
总算有人说到点子上了。 前头偶看 @Highway @不爱吱声 说的已经晕眩了----- 这个叫做“爱情”????这 ...
同学,不要把本来是挺美好的事儿,非得给整成丑闻。
大卫很生气,后果很严重!
http://s4.sinaimg.cn/middle/10bc8bbc4cc7403fbb383&960