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[经济] 一叶知秋——经世济民之学在中国(2)

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    发表于 2011-6-14 00:15:05 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
    本帖最后由 万里风中虎 于 2011-7-14 21:04 编辑 " p% k3 v* q' j% b1 k1 |$ x

    , \: B. ]! o2 i4 m. g! D大概十几年前在国内读研究生时,一日受本校某著名教授邀请, 要去西北一农村蹲点,说是作个象样的调查研究,以便写个供国务院领导审阅的报告来解决解决三农问题。
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    0 R2 d0 t0 x* m" a小虎故作欢呼雀跃拍手称快,心里却叫苦连天,都什么年代了还搞这一套,学费孝通写《江村经济》也不看看形势。
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    幸亏老教授的提议受到系里所有中青年学术骨干的一致反对,他们还要利用假期走走穴赚点外快哪,哪有这闲心去陪个无权无势的老头子钻农村。于是此事不了了之。前两年见到这位老教授时,还在为这事耿耿于怀,说当年如果这个调查研究搞成了,中国农村问题就解决了一大半,中国农业经济研究的学术中心肯定在本校云云。" P7 ]& b3 U' l; F7 \! ]5 Y4 v9 [6 D

    : }: K, M0 W( z( x6 L5 G7 Z% o2 y由此想到了中国经济学界本来是有两把剑的:第一把剑是以孙冶方薛暮桥等人所代表的“实验主义”,另一把剑是以陈岱孙张培刚为首的“拿来主义”。这两把剑都有历史传统和理论渊源。比如说,孙薛等人受苏俄的国家主义影响很大,对计划经济的理解很有一套,通到天就是陈云。而陈岱孙张培刚两个哈佛博士是把现代经济学引入中国的桥梁,现在在中国经济学教育界有点名望的老师大多数都是这两位巨子的徒子徒孙。他们所引入的经济思想决定了改革开放后中国的主流,和周邓的思路暗合。
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    那么,中国的经济学问题出在哪呢?很简单,就是文革。( V9 ?( V' q; D( p( G' f7 i1 }" g
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    文革过后,中国经济学的两把剑都丢了,整个学术水平倒退到了建国以前的起点,大批的人才凋零。首先丢掉的是第二把剑,陈岱孙被踢下中央财经学院(现中央财经大学)校长的位置,黯然失色退回书斋。张培刚闭嘴敲了十年石头好歹保住命。以至于文革末期,美国两位学者跑到中国来,想向张请教一些发展经济学的问题时,却在采石厂见到这位落魄的“发展经济学先驱”。
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    : x% f6 ^, O' K! u% N张面对后学晚辈的回答让小虎现在想起来还不寒而栗。张将发展经济学的领跑权供手相让,坦言已经十年没有摸书了,英语也不行了,已无力为人师。大概二十年时间,中国大陆不存在正规的经济学训练。有整整两代人在经济学上没有任何建树。第一代是本该文革其间读书的青年学子,第二代是他们的学生。从本质上说,现在国内45岁以上本土制造的所谓经济学家都是徒有虚名。天可怜见,张顽强地活了下来,才有以后的中国经济学重镇“华中派”,才有在国外埋头苦干的石寿永和在国内发表了800多篇“论文”(叫你和他一样一稿多投,也没人能发800多篇不是?)的巴曙松。0 o( d4 @/ A" M2 a9 {0 K

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    ' U8 O3 J# Z: A4 H: |把这第一把剑也打碎了的就是号称“京城四少”的樊刘钟魏四位京派高手。
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    如果要勉强找海派人物,张军算一个。" g' n. {* P; p( M% F3 |! H) z
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    经济学排名的先遣图
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    2011年后记:现在海归经济学博士稳占大学教育的1/4左右,形势有所好转,所谓:
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    改革春风吹大地
    兜里揣满了人民币
    有了钱了干点啥呢?
    读个清华MB

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    % p% r% a/ J9 I) I/ H& w# ~引国际公认经济学,金融学学刊发表量最高的中国大陆前五名是:
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    RankScoreW.RankInstitution
    11.23[1]Central University of Finance and Economics (CUFE), Beijing
    22.21[2]Guanghua School of Management, Peking University, Beijing
    (3)2.61[2]China Economics and Management Academy, Central University of Finance and Economics (CUFE), Beijing
    33[3]School of Economics and Management, Tsinghua University, Beijing
    46.28[5]School of Economics, Fudan University, Shanghai
    56.32[4]Shanghai University of Finance and Economics, Shanghai
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    工作单位在中国大陆的最顶级的高手是:
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    , Q8 s4 r" F* S$ \/ c" y3 E北大自毁长城赶走了邹恒甫,导致中财坐大,稳坐中国第一,而张维迎自己只是最后一名而已。再等两年,我们这些人回国,他的名字就从这个排行榜上消失了。白聚山怎么也被中财挖走了呢。以后,中国的经济学界就是中财,清华和北大的三国时代。
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    Top 25% authors in ChinaThis ranking is based on registered authors only, and only those who claimed some affiliation in this region, and this affiliation is listed in EDIRC.
    RankScoreW.RankAuthorAffiliated with (in this region)
    1.1.74[2]Jushan Bai Central University of Finance and Economics (CUFE), Beijing
    1 o/ @' g& C) i: d. fChina Economics and Management Academy, Central University of Finance and Economics (CUFE), Beijing
    2.2.15[5]Heng-Fu Zou Central University of Finance and Economics (CUFE), Beijing
    2 w! B3 ?- t; V& n* e, {4 tChina Economics and Management Academy, Central University of Finance and Economics (CUFE), Beijing
    3.3.76[8]Lin Zhou Shanghai Jiao Tong University
    4.4.59[10]Hongbin Cai Guanghua School of Management, Peking University, Beijing
    5.5.02[11]Hongbin Li School of Economics and Management, Tsinghua University, Beijing
    " x' }/ Y2 g; D' Y5 o7 VTsinghua University
    6.6.42[14]Chong-En Bai School of Economics and Management, Tsinghua University, Beijing
    7.6.86[1]Shang-Jin Wei School of Economics and Management, Tsinghua University, Beijing
    8.6.9[4]Xiaobo Zhang Center for Agricutural and Rural Development (CARD), Zhejiang University, Hangzhou
    9.7.98[15]Shi Li School of Economics and Business Administration, Beijing Normal University, Beijing
    10.8.77[6]Charles M. C. Lee Guanghua School of Management, Peking University, Beijing
    11.10.54[3]Yi Wen School of Economics and Management, Tsinghua University, Beijing
    12.12.9[17]Xinzhong Xu Guanghua School of Management, Peking University, Beijing
    13.13.61[7]Jianjun Miao Central University of Finance and Economics (CUFE), Beijing) x* k- p0 j0 H  g6 d5 u
    China Economics and Management Academy, Central University of Finance and Economics (CUFE), Beijing
    14.14.24[18]Howell H. Zee College of Economics, Xiamen University, Fujian. [7 G  z0 \& @0 m0 Y  h
    Department of Public Economics, College of Economics, Xiamen University, Fujian
    15.16.13[19]Ping He School of Economics and Management, Tsinghua University, Beijing
    16.16.85[12]Guanghua Wan Yunnan University of Finance and Economics, Kunming
    17.17.05[20]Song Xi Chen Guanghua School of Management, Peking University, Beijing
    18.18.47[22]Zhong Zhao School of Labor and Human Resources, Renmin University of China, Beijing
    19.18.68[21]Angus C. Chu Shanghai University of Finance and Economics, Shanghai
    20.18.84[9]ZhongXiang Zhang School of Economics, Fudan University, Shanghai
    . z( p& i: f2 e7 P) ^' [2 NCenter for Energy Economics and Strategy Studies, School of Economics, Fudan University, Shanghai
    21.20.72[24]Lei Zhang China Center for Economic Research (CCER), Peking University, Beijing
    . N1 j/ K2 [" Q# ISchool of Economics and Management, Tsinghua University, Beijing2 O/ O) X7 q% ^3 ]: X
    China Center for Financial Research (CCFR), School of Economics and Management, Tsinghua University, Beijing
    22.20.99[23]Jason Shachat Wang Yanan Institute for Studies in Economics (WISE), Xiamen University, Fujian
    23.22.23[25]Yuyu Chen Guanghua School of Management, Peking University, Beijing
    24.23.98[13]Ake Blomqvist Central University of Finance and Economics (CUFE), Beijing
    25.26.74[26]Shihe Fu Wang Yanan Institute for Studies in Economics (WISE), Xiamen University, Fujian
    26.29.01[27]Chengsi Zhang School of Finance, Renmin University of China, Beijing
    27.29.31[29]Liutang Gong Guanghua School of Management, Peking University, Beijing
    ) f& ^9 j% `) R8 d3 ZDepartment of Applied Economics, Guanghua School of Management, Peking University, Beijing
    28.29.46[28]Xian Xin Center for Rural Development Policy, China Agricultural University, Beijing
    * o( q3 _$ c* L3 U* D4 `- xCollege of Economics and Management, China Agricultural University, Beijing
    29.29.79[31]Shu Lin School of Economics, Fudan University, Shanghai
    30.30.48[16]Erik Dietzenbacher Institute of Policy and Management, Chinese Academy of Sciences, Beijing
    31.31.7[32]Hua Zhang Chongqing Institute of Technology
    32.32.19[34]Dongwei Su College of Economics, Jinan University, Guangzhou
    33.32.81[35]Zheng Michael Song School of Economics, Fudan University, Shanghai
    34.32.81[33]Bala Ramasamy China Europe International Business School, Shanghai
    35.35.2[36]Yu-Jane Liu Guanghua School of Management, Peking University, Beijing
    36.37.21[37]Hui Wang School of Management, Tianjin University, Tianjin
    37.37.38[38]Haichun Ye School of Economics, Shanghai University of Finance and Economics, Shanghai; N+ a1 X& s1 N) T
    Shanghai University of Finance and Economics, Shanghai
    38.39.2[40]Changqi Wu Guanghua School of Management, Peking University, Beijing
    39.40.33[39]Fan Zhai
    40.40.53[41]Li-An Zhou Guanghua School of Management, Peking University, Beijing( t- |1 S" C0 {' w, Z
    Peking University
    41.42.23[42]Qingjie Xia School of Economics, Peking University, Beijing
    42.43.78[43]Qinghua Zhang Guanghua School of Management, Peking University, Beijing
    43.44.43[44]Feng Liu Shanghai University of Finance and Economics, Shanghai
    44.44.68[48]Maximilian von Zedtwitz School of Economics and Management, Tsinghua University, Beijing
    45.47.86[49]Lu Jiangyong Guanghua School of Management, Peking University, Beijing
    46.48.02[47]Yi-Tsung Lee Guanghua School of Management, Peking University, Beijing
    47.50.29[55]Dingsheng Zhang Central University of Finance and Economics (CUFE), Beijing7 O% ~8 @# C7 Z" N7 H# a
    China Economics and Management Academy, Central University of Finance and Economics (CUFE), Beijing
    48.50.65[51]Jie Chen School of Management, Fudan University, Shanghai
    49.51.18[52]Canfei He Peking University
    50.51.37[61]Wei Bin Zhang School of Agricultural Economics and Rural Development, Renmin University of China, Beijing
    51.51.95[64]Xue Qiao School of Economics and Management, Tsinghua University, Beijing
    52.52.16[53]Wei Chi School of Economics and Management, Tsinghua University, Beijing
    53.52.9[54]Chun Liu School of Economics and Management, Tsinghua University, Beijing
    54.53.49[63]Guohua Zou
    55.53.85[56]Yuanzhu Lu Central University of Finance and Economics (CUFE), Beijing" w( t( M( u! v3 @  v
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    56.54.64[59]Changyun Wang School of Finance, Renmin University of China, Beijing9 e% u! m: I) d# p2 M$ ^7 d3 A
    China Financial Policy Research Center, Renmin University of China, Beijing
    57.54.92[46]Hengyun Ma College of Economics and Management, Henan Agricultural University, Zhengzhou
    58.55.47[58]Hansheng Wang Guanghua School of Management, Peking University, Beijing9 B4 ^/ f, [0 _3 ?& E, }" K# [! S
    Department of Business Statistics and Econometrics, Guanghua School of Management, Peking University, Beijing
    59.55.76[57]Weiying Zhang Guanghua School of Management, Peking University, Beijing# I; E' y! B5 |8 U! M! u! G' r2 r
    Department of Applied Economics, Guanghua School of Management, Peking University, Beijing

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    [LV.8]合体

    沙发
    发表于 2011-6-14 00:57:45 | 只看该作者
    邹恒甫应该就是新世纪后走的,我记得我上学的时候此人还在北大。

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    老芒好年轻哪,呵呵。  发表于 2011-6-14 17:00
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    [LV.10]大乘

    板凳
    发表于 2011-6-14 10:09:32 | 只看该作者
    回复 万里风中虎 的帖子
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    ; p( l3 o- q& i中财貌似是农行的?我们湘财是央行的呢,可惜在造大船的时代自毁长城并入了湖师大。。。

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    中财背景极为复杂,是个典型的庙小妖风大池浅王八多的地方,你说它是财政部的可以,但是肯定不属于央行体系或农行,因为它的历史比央行长得多  发表于 2011-6-14 17:15
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    [LV.3]辟谷

    地板
    发表于 2011-6-27 11:50:46 | 只看该作者
    学习了~~~一贴贴的看

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    原创版发帖希望有实质性内容,积极参加讨论,爱坛人人平等,相互学习,谢谢。  发表于 2011-6-27 19:03

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