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[杂谈] 至道学宫白云先生:一场针对华为的黑公关狂欢

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    最近华为遭遇了一些风波,从胡玲事件到这次的李洪元251事件。很多同道留言问,怎么看待这次的251事件?很简单,这是非常典型的黑公关活动,而不是什么劳资纠纷的问题。而且是一次全网发起的黑公关活动。大部分的网络平台,网络头部账号,全都参与进来了。

    什么叫黑公关呢?黑公关,就是雇佣网络水军,通过造谣生事,或者有目的的借题发挥,炒作某个事件,有预谋有计划有组织的有偿攻击某个人或者某个机构。从而达到损害对方声誉和品牌,损害对方利益的目的。

    我们都知道,微博上的一个明星做一次正面公关,和危机公关,成本都是千万之巨。而做黑公关,单次点击量的成本,是正面公关的很多倍。网络上的那些水军,他们既干正面公关,也接负面公关的活。

    这两次针对华为的黑公关活动,所发动的流量,起码是微博上一个明星搞公关的几十倍几百倍。可想而知,发起这种规模的超级黑公关,所投入的成本,起码是几百亿量级的。

    李洪元显然是没有这么大能量,做这种操作。他只是一个可怜的棋子,被人利用了。

    谁能有这么多的钱,并且还有动机来黑华为呢?背后的推动力量,一把手都能数过来。因为通过分析,损害华为,谁能收益就知道了。

    美国是第一黑手。

    华为的强大,最害怕的是美国人。所以,幕后的第一推手,肯定是美国潜伏在中国境内的非政府组织。他们刚在香港做了几个月的见不得人的事,现在又对华为下手了。

    大家注意了,美国的这只黑手,已经从香港搅动到了内地。香港事件,已经和对华为的黑公关事件联动起来了。

    竞争对手是第二黑手

    除了美国人,还有一批人是见不得华为好的。这就是华为的竞争对手。这背后的道理很简单。因为美国打压华为,激发了国民的爱国热情,华为的品牌越来越强,已经成了民族英雄。这让华为在国际上,虽然受到一些损失。但是在国内,增长特别迅猛,眼看着在消费者业务,尤其是手机领域,市占率直奔50%。

    这让其他的“友商”们压力非常大。所以,他们有资本也有动机,参与这次针对华为的黑公关。

    媒体平台是第三黑手

    像超级黑公关这种单子,媒体平台是收益巨大的参与方。目前国内的媒体平台,有能力有条件也有相关业务配套,能接下这个活的,屈指可数。主要就是微博,豆瓣网,和知乎网这几个网站。尤其是知乎,目前在黑公关业务中异军突起,已经成为国内黑公关第一平台。

    很多人可能认为,这些媒体平台的收益,主要来自拉广告卖广告。其实不是这样。这些平台上的头部账号,大多数都是平台自养的。通过养大号,接一些黑公关的见不得人的业务,赚的钱比做广告多多了。

    为什么对知乎网的印象这么深刻呢?因为学宫作为一个公众号,在知乎上就被几百人有组织有计划的黑了三年多。无冤无仇的,在知乎上注册个号什么都不敢,唯一的动态就是黑我们。

    从这些黑公关的流量来看,光黑学宫,幕后的金主,一年撒在知乎这个平台上的经费就要几百万。

    更奇葩的事,知乎对这些黑公关的帖子,像爱护宝贝一样不肯删除。简直是誓死捍卫黑公关帖子。而对于别人洗冤的帖子,公开公平证明自己清白无辜的帖子,知乎要么就是删除正面的帖子,要么就是折叠评论,要么就是直接封号。

    知乎这个网站十分邪门,也极其危险。天底下没有他们不能黑的人。他们先是像方舟子打假那样,反装忠攒良心,通过打百度,攒了很多良心。然后大家就以为知乎是个有良心的网站。于是呢,知乎就开始搞黑公关生意了。

    而且,这世界上没有知乎不敢接的黑公关业务。小到黑至道学宫。大到黑华为这种大机构。包括黑国家黑政府,知乎都敢接。之前有阵子,因为黑国家黑的太离谱,知乎的app被下架了7天。但是这个网站,丝毫都不知道悔改,现在又在变本加厉的再搞黑公关生意了。

    黑公关媒体平台,为什么极其危险,极其可怕呢?因为他们懂得人心,懂得怎么操纵人心。在和平时期,他们通过利用人心,搞黑公关拉业务做生意赚钱。而在社会动荡时期,他们是通过利用人心,可以进行有组织的政治颠覆活动。

    媒体平台控制在私人手里,就是这么可怕。

    251这个事情,闹到现在这个样子,到底应该怎么解决呢?其实事情非常好解决。

    第一,该法律管的,交给法律管就行了。哪个公司没有出现过劳资纠纷,如果出现过劳资纠纷,就上纲上线,那么一夜之间所有的公司都要破产,所有的人都要失业。社会就停止运转了。所以说,就事论事,才是解决问题的正确方法和方向。

    第二,杜绝私人资本掌握媒体。像这些搞黑公关业务的媒体平台,该封禁的封禁。该处罚的就要从重处罚。尤其是操纵舆论,蛊惑人心这件事,是要一律杜绝的。

    第三,在非常时期,国家要出面进行向心力管理。中美之间的较量,是一个长期而艰苦的过程。在这个大战中,华为是冲在第一线的,结果我们背后因为管不好社会上潜伏的敌国非政府组织,一些黑公关媒体平台,往冲在前线的民族英雄的后背上捅刀子,这是非常恶劣的事情。美国是打不赢华为,但是华为却可能因为被自己人背后捅刀子而倒下。

    就像当年的岳飞一样,金国人打不过他,但是秦桧能害死他。我们不能让华为步岳飞的后尘。

    第四,网民的自我反思。现在的网民都知道纪念岳飞,痛恨秦桧。如果华为被大家背后捅死了,美国人打赢了科技战,我们再次沦为美国的附庸,举国都是亡国奴。那时候可能就要怀念华为了。可是,如果真的那样,就为时已晚了。

    为什么吃瓜群众,在大是大非面前是瞎子,在小惠小过方面,一个个都俨然圣人附体了呢?因为大多数人的人,他们的价值判断和道德判断,都是婴幼型道德,从个人出发,评价外部的世界,并以此作为正义。而不是智能型道德,从世界真理和现实出发评价万物,并以此作为正义。

    如果大家注意观察的话,所有的婴儿和儿童,都是婴幼型道德观。

    以前听一个公知粉说,日本侵华日军是好人。问他依据是什么?他说他日本蝗军当年给了他爷爷一块糖。所以日本人就是好人。而日本人对中国的烧杀抢掠,在中国犯下的滔天罪行,给中国带来的苦难和破坏,还敌不过他眼里的一块糖。这就是非常典型的婴幼型道德观。

    反观华为事件,也是类似的情况。华为每年发几十亿的奖金给员工,他们视而不见。华为有一次年终奖分了一百多亿,他们视而不见。华为以一己之力顶住了美国的围剿,为中国实现了科技自主,打破美国人的垄断,立下如此伟大的功勋,他们视而不见。华为在所有民企里面,是唯一一个让利给员工,全员持股的公司,他们也视而不见。

    他们现在眼里只有一件事,那就是李洪元被关了251天。就因为这个事,他们觉得华为是坏人。

    这和因为一块糖,认为日本人是好人的行为有什么区别吗?没有。这都是婴幼型道德观。——眼里只有自己,而没有世界。

    为什么很多网友会同情李洪元呢?这也不怪网友们的吃瓜水平不专业,只能说是搞黑公关的那些人太坏太专业了。他们非常善于操纵民心利用民心。因为世界上大多数的人,都是从自我出发的自我中心式的婴幼型道德观。而秉持这种道德观的人,都是天然的具有怜幼怜弱心理,也就是大家所俗称的同情心。而且是剥离善恶是非前提的无条件同情心。毕竟同病相怜嘛。

    所以,只要利用了这种心理,就可以操纵人心。之前咪蒙操纵人心,也是类似的手法。一看到寒门,状元之死,死亡,离婚……等等,这些负面的悲伤的东西,人们的眼泪马上就止不住了。这种状态下,心智就缺席了,原地切换成婴幼型道德观。然后任人摆布。

    李洪元的251事件,也是类似的操作手法。吃瓜群众,一看到工作十几年,辞退,劳资纠纷,坐牢,冤情,公司居然报警抓自己员工,马上同情心就失控了,眼泪就在眼眶里打转了。一块看到李洪元被抓,就想到黑心资本家,一想到黑心资本家,就联想到社会黑暗,一想到社会黑暗,就想呐喊,一想到呐喊,就想到华为大坏蛋。一想到华为大坏蛋,就想马上打倒华为。一想到马上就能打倒华为了,内心里兴奋地就好像打了胜仗一样。在这种情绪状态下,心智缺席,任人摆布。吃瓜吃瓜,疯狂吃瓜。

    事情呢,基本上就是这样一个事。那如果较真一下,我们从旁观者,从建立在事实之上的正义来看,单就劳资纠纷这个事来看,华为和李洪元,到底孰对孰错呢?

    首先,李洪元自己肯定有责任。如果一个人在一个公司干十几年,能力得多差才能一直不升职。从这点看,人力主管说他绩效差,以不能胜任自己的工作来辞退他,是合理的,并不是打击他和冤枉他。而且李洪元的确也使用了不正当的手段,从人力主管何某哪里黑了几十万的不正当的钱。这算是不当得利。这是李洪元的错。

    其次,华为也有一些责任。如果能力这么差的员工,要么培养好他,要么早点让他另谋高就。这才是负责任的做法。能力这么差的人,品行也不是很端正的人,居然也能使用十几年。这是华为做的不够好的地方。

    再次,政府作为第三方,也有责任。当出现劳资纠纷的情况时,没有很好的解决问题。以至于留下了很多后遗症。尤其是经济犯罪的立法司法问题,是一个薄弱环节。要不然也不会弄出来这么大的问题。出现这种问题,理论上应该是到第三方平台为止。因为劳资纠纷是民事问题,而不是道德问题。这事本来就应该是政府管的,而不是交给吃瓜群众来管。要不然这个社会还要法律干什么呢?

    反正呢,几方面都是有责任的。只有吃瓜群众是对的,只有吃瓜群众永远没有错。这个世界,是有法律有规则的支撑在运行的。而只有在被黑公关媒体平台操纵和喂养下的黑暗世界里,正义窒息在宝宝们的喜怒之中。

    金主转了一笔钱。
    黑公关平台拿钱买了个瓜。
    大号们喊宝宝来吃瓜。
    宝宝们来了。
    宝宝们显得很激动。
    宝宝开始不高兴。
    哼,宝宝生气了。
    哼,宝宝气得发抖,忍不住要骂人了。
    宝宝们频频点赞转发和评论。
    快来吧迟到的正义,请和我一起窒息吧。
    ……
    一场又一场的狂欢。
    在宝宝们婴幼道德审判的狂欢背后,是一场场黑公关的狂欢。

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    难道看到被251,吃瓜群众还要拍手赞同?或者默默走开?。。。不会又有黑手说群众没有同情心中国人素质不行吧。前两年工人罢工,工人跳楼,工人游行反对黑心企业资本家的事情,也总是拿敌对势力,海外黑手啥的来洗。。。。相忍为国都成了梗了。。
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    难道看到被251,吃瓜群众还要拍手赞同?或者默默走开?。。。不会又有黑手说群众没有同情心中国人素质不行 ...

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    难道看到被251,吃瓜群众还要拍手赞同?或者默默走开?。。。不会又有黑手说群众没有同情心中国人素质不行 ...

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    这几天,华为仿佛变成了人人喊打的“ 过街老鼠 ”。

    甚至,就连一向清净的知乎上,都全是骂华为,以及号召一辈子不买华为任何产品的言论;


    几乎可以说,过去十几年华为辛苦树立的科技品牌形象,一夜时间现在全毁了。。。

    这个时候最开心的肯定是美国跟韩国了;自己花了九牛二虎之力,又是芯片制裁,又是系统软件制裁,甚至不惜开启科技战;这些都没有打倒华为!

    却没想到中国人竟然自己把华为“ 干残 ”了。。。

    可悲!可笑!

    一群啥真相也不懂的网络喷子,竟然占领了舞台中心,干掉了中国对外最大的“ 科技核武 ”!



    什么叫真相?这就是!

    目前,你们在网上看到的言论大体都是这样的:李某兢兢业业在华为工作了12年,离职后拿了30万补偿金;却没想到事后几个月,老公司华为不但没感激员工;反而起诉对方敲诈;然后被公安机关关押了200多天;最近才无罪释放!
    一个平民百姓,辛苦工作12年;老了没人要,被人踢走了,然后拿了点补偿款,还差点被抓去坐牢。。。

    愤怒吗?任谁看完都会感到愤怒!!

    然而,事情真的是如此吗?如果你静下心来,扪心自问;你觉得任正非是这样的人吗?

    如果这家企业是这样的恶毒对待员工,那为什么前面几十年都没一个员工去告这家公司?更没有传出丝毫关于这方面的负面消息?

    甚至被美国科技制裁后,还所有人一致努力加班,携手同心,冲破封锁?

    不要跟我说什么只手遮天!

    现在的人没有谁是傻子!在今天,坐拥微信、微博、抖音、快手等等平台,为何之前没有一丁点这样的声音???

    甚至就连现在全国都在讨论这个事情,李某自己都在说,这个事情不是他本人爆到网络上的,他不想诋毁老东家;

    为什么这个事情,是如此的巧合,在今年这个时间点爆出??!!!

    帝国主义亡我之心不死!

    给你们看看真正的真相;为什么李某释放后不去告华为,为什么网络上全部人都在骂华为,人家都没有道歉。

    1、李某在华为12年,最终级别是15级;应届生一般进入华为都是12-13级;第一个四年合同结束的时候,只要表现不是太差,一般都能升到15级;李某干了12年,才到15级,这种表现在公司里,如果你是领导,你是续约还是不续约;
    2、李某合同到期后,按照劳动法,领取的离职补偿应该为N+1;就算是投诉到劳动仲裁所也不可能会给2N;在华为公司已经同意对公给予N+1补偿的情况下;李某找到主管,最后主管通过对私给了他2N的补偿,30万!

    李某只告诉了大家他之前举报了小组某些人造假;然后事后不久,公司就没续约;给了他2N补偿30万;然后离职过了几个月,就被抓起来关了200多天;

    给人一种自己正直,没想到却被公司倒打一耙,差点抓去坐牢的遐想空间。。

    却隐瞒了,他自己也是一个小领导;接触到了很多小组内的资料,合同;手上掌握了上级主管的财务造假把柄;并通过办法让领导同意给予2N,30万的补偿。

    据华为前HR爆料:


    这种财务造假,跟营收没关系;增加营收要发货和回款,很难造假;更和网上造谣的骗取国家补贴恶意抹黑没关系,因为李所在的光伏发电销售部门,光伏发电国家并不会给厂家补贴,补贴都是直接给到发电站。

    也就是说营收很难造假,因为造假不仅没有补贴,反而会多交税。所以这个是公司内部问题,不涉及外部,也不怕曝光,公司也敢报警。

    因主管怕李举报给公司领导,所以选择息事宁人给钱,这个谈出来的2N,等于就是【封口费】。

    3、为什么离职后几个月华为才报案抓人

    一般大的公司都有一些出差、应酬;团建等活动。华为的财务审查发现李某的上级主管秘书报销的“ 活动报销费用 ”清单里,30万竟然不是真正的“ 活动 ”,而是支付给了某个员工,随后发现问题。。

    主管被上级发现了,肯定第一时间老老实实坦白从宽;公司认为李把一个公司内部管理问题,拿来威胁主管,导致公司损失几十万元,当然要报警。因为李看管理问题可以举报给公司审计部门等,拿来压迫主管拿钱就违法了。

    没有谁能未卜先知;但是李某很聪明,早早就给自己准备了一个“ 免死金牌 ”!

    4、神奇的录音笔,你们的感情都被骗了

    现在大众看到的都是,李某被关押了200多天后,最终被录音笔拯救回来;众人纷纷感叹,这种情况要不是人家有了录音笔,估计任何人碰到这种情况,99%都得牢底坐穿。。

    错!大错特错!!

    李某没有告诉大家的是,一起被抓的其实是5个人;

    并且提供的录音,最终只有他跟上级主管商谈赔偿款的部分;且明确说到这30万就是离职赔偿款。。

    然而其他的!包括威胁上级主管的部分,等等不利自己的全部都没有。。公司不可能傻逼一样,到处装监控,录音设备;

    所以这些证据,华为拿不出来;就算举报到法院,李某的录音也是一张“ 免死金牌 ”!!!

    折腾了200多天,最终无赖,按照法律;华为不得不吞下这个苦果;

    上面的基本就是目前华为前HR爆出的真相。。。




    简单总结就是,李某业绩不达标,公司没续约;按劳动法给N+1不愿意;通过掌握的把柄从主管那拿到2N的补偿;通过有利于自己的谈话,提前准备录音。

    华为财务审计发现问题,查明来龙去脉后;报警抓人!最后却没想到人家早就准备好了“ 免死金牌 ”,按法律不得不无罪释放;

    就算主管多次补充材料,奈何都没有“ 铁证 ”,也没有用;人家免死金牌录音里“ 主管 ”说了,这是公司给你的补偿金。。。

    这个事情,不管从哪个角度看;华为与主管一开始都没有为难人;直接就给了N+1;也没有任何计谋+设局。。。

    公司审计发现损失后报警,也没有什么不光彩不能告诉人的地方。

    这种事情,了解真相后;相信你们谁都知道,错误在哪方;

    但是如今是法治社会!法院已经作出了无罪释放的判决;如果华为没有能力拿出“ 更多录音铁证 ”;这个时候说任何前员工的不是,都是藐视国家法律!

    只要说了,一旦被告!百分百一个诽谤罪。。

    这个时候你们再看华为的那则声明,你们就懂了:


    “ 我们尊重司法机关,公安检察院和法院的决定 ,如果李认为他的权益受到了损害,可以起诉华为。这也体现了法律面前,人人平等 ”!!

    没到伤心处!谁会气得对全国人民说出,这段话。

    整起事件,如今基本已经“ 水落石出 ”了,然而!华为的名誉损失却再也无法挽回了!!!

    造谣一张嘴,解释跑断腿。

    这个社会!喷子不会管你的真相,他们只要自己看不爽的,逮住机会;就是直接喷!至于,真相!谁在乎?

    可笑!

    华为没被竞争对手美国、韩国搞死,今天竟然差点被中国自己人搞死,甚至直到现在你们翻遍网络、媒体,以及知乎;看到的也全是喷子的声音!

    这不仅是当代媒体的可悲!更是当代企业的悲哀!

    华为,这次估计彻底被伤透了心。


    169. Don't let yesterday use up too much of today. 别留念昨天了,把握好今天吧。(Will Rogers) 170. If you are not brave enough, no one will back you up. 你不勇敢,没人替你坚强。171. If you don't build your dream, someone will hire you to build theirs. 如果你没有梦想,那么你只能为别人的梦想打工。172. Beauty is all around, if you just open your heart to see. 只要你给自己机会,你会发现你的世界可以很美丽。173. The difference in winning and losing is most often...not quitting. 赢与输的差别通常是--不放弃。(华特·迪士尼) 174. I am ordinary yet unique. 我很平凡,但我独一无二。175. I like people who make me laugh in spite of myself. 我喜欢那些让我笑起来的人,就算是我不想笑的时候。176. Image a new story for your life and start living it. 为你的生命想一个全新剧本,并去倾情出演吧!177. I'd rather be a happy fool than a sad sage. 做个悲伤的智者,不如做个开心的傻子。178. The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams. 未来属于那些相信梦想之美的人。(埃莉诺·罗斯福) 179. Even if you get no applause, you should accept a curtain call gracefully and appreciate your own efforts. 即使没有人为你鼓掌,也要优雅的谢幕,感谢自己的认真付出。180. Don't let dream just be your dream. 别让梦想只停留在梦里。181. A day without laughter is a day wasted. 没有笑声的一天是浪费了的一天。(卓别林) 182. Travel and see the world; afterwards, you will be able to put your concerns in perspective. 去旅行吧,见的世面多了,你会发现原来在意的那些结根本算不了什么。183. The key to acquiring proficiency in any task is repetition. 任何事情成功关键都是熟能生巧。《生活大爆炸》 184. You can be happy no matter what. 开心一点吧,管它会怎样。185. A good plan today is better than a perfect plan tomorrow. 今天的好计划胜过明天的完美计划。186. Nothing is impossible, the word itself says 'I'm possible'! 一切皆有可能!“不可能”的意思是:“不,可能。”(奥黛丽·赫本) 187. Life isn't fair, but no matter your circumstances, you have to give it your all. 生活是不公平的,不管你的境遇如何,你只能全力以赴。188. No matter how hard it is, just keep going because you only fail when you give up. 无论多么艰难,都要继续前进,因为只有你放弃的那一刻,你才输了。     When Paul Jobs was mustered out of the Coast Guard after World War II, he made a wager with his crewmates. They had arrived in San Francisco, where their ship was decommissioned, and Paul bet that he would find himself a wife within two weeks. He was a taut, tattooed engine mechanic, six feet tall, with a passing resemblance to James Dean. But it wasn’t his looks that got him a date with Clara Hagopian, a sweet-humored daughter of Armenian immigrants. It was the fact that he and his friends had a car, unlike the group she had originally planned to go out with that evening. Ten days later, in March 1946, Paul got engaged to Clara and won his wager. It would turn out to be a happy marriage, one that lasted until death parted them more than forty years later. Paul Reinhold Jobs had been raised on a dairy farm in Germantown, Wisconsin. Even though his father was an alcoholic and sometimes abusive, Paul ended up with a gentle and calm disposition under his leathery exterior. After dropping out of high school, he wandered through the Midwest picking up work as a mechanic until, at age nineteen, he joined the Coast Guard, even though he didn’t know how to swim. He was deployed on the USS General M. C. Meigs and spent much of the war ferrying troops to Italy for General Patton. His talent as a machinist and fireman earned him commendations, but he occasionally found himself in minor trouble and never rose above the rank of seaman. Clara was born in New Jersey, where her parents had landed after fleeing the Turks in Armenia, and they moved to the Mission District of San Francisco when she was a child. She had a secret that she rarely mentioned to anyone: She had been married before, but her husband had been killed in the war. So when she met Paul Jobs on that first date, she was primed to start a new life. Clara, however, loved San Francisco, and in 1952 she convinced her husband to move back there. They got an apartment in the Sunset District facing the Pacific, just south of Golden Gate Park, and he took a job working for a finance company as a “repo man,” picking the locks of cars whose owners hadn’t paid their loans and repossessing them. He also bought, repaired, and sold some of the cars, making a decent enough living in the process. There was, however, something missing in their lives. They wanted children, but Clara had suffered an ectopic pregnancy, in which the fertilized egg was implanted in a fallopian tube rather than the uterus, and she had been unable to have any. So by 1955, after nine years of marriage, they were looking to adopt a child. Like Paul Jobs, Joanne Schieble was from a rural Wisconsin family of German heritage. Her father, Arthur Schieble, had immigrated to the outskirts of Green Bay, where he and his wife owned a mink farm and dabbled successfully in various other businesses, including real estate and photoengraving. He was very strict, especially regarding his daughter’s relationships, and he had strongly disapproved of her first love, an artist who was not a Catholic. Thus it was no surprise that he threatened to cut Joanne off completely when, as a graduate student at the University of Wisconsin, she fell in love with Abdulfattah “John” Jandali, a Muslim teaching assistant from Syria. Jandali was the youngest of nine children in a prominent Syrian family. His father owned oil refineries and multiple other businesses, with large holdings in Damascus and Homs, and at one point pretty much controlled the price of wheat in the region. His mother, he later said, was a “traditional Muslim woman” who was a “conservative, obedient housewife.” Like the Schieble family, the Jandalis put a premium on education. Abdulfattah was sent to a Jesuit boarding school, even though he was Muslim, and he got an undergraduate degree at the American University in Beirut before entering the University of Wisconsin to pursue a doctoral degree in political science. In the summer of 1954, Joanne went with Abdulfattah to Syria. They spent two months in Homs, where she learned from his family to cook Syrian dishes. When they returned to Wisconsin she discovered that she was pregnant. They were both twenty-three, but they decided not to get married. Her father was dying at the time, and he had threatened to disown her if she wed Abdulfattah. Nor was abortion an easy option in a small Catholic community. So in early 1955, Joanne traveled to San Francisco, where she was taken into the care of a kindly doctor who sheltered unwed mothers, delivered their babies, and quietly arranged closed adoptions. Joanne had one requirement: Her child must be adopted by college graduates. So the doctor arranged for the baby to be placed with a lawyer and his wife. But when a boy was born—on February 24, 1955—the designated couple decided that they wanted a girl and backed out. Thus it was that the boy became the son not of a lawyer but of a high school dropout with a passion for mechanics and his salt-of-the-earth wife who was working as a bookkeeper. Paul and Clara named their new baby Steven Paul Jobs. When Joanne found out that her baby had been placed with a couple who had not even graduated from high school, she refused to sign the adoption papers. The standoff lasted weeks, even after the baby had settled into the Jobs household. Eventually Joanne relented, with the stipulation that the couple promise—indeed sign a pledge—to fund a savings account to pay for the boy’s college education. There was another reason that Joanne was balky about signing the adoption papers. Her father was about to die, and she planned to marry Jandali soon after. She held out hope, she would later tell family members, sometimes tearing up at the memory, that once they were married, she could get their 别让梦想只停留在梦里。181. A day without laughter is a day wasted. 没有笑声的一天是浪费了的一天。(卓别林) 182. Travel and see the world; afterwards, you will be able to put your concerns in perspective. 去旅行吧,见的世面多了,你会发现原来在意的那些结根本算不了什么。183. The key to acquiring proficiency in any task is repetition. 任何事情成功关键都是熟能生巧。《生活大爆炸》 184. You can be happy no matter what. 开心一点吧,管它会怎样。baby boy back. Arthur Schieble died in August 1955, after the adoption was finalized. Just after Christmas that year, Joanne and Abdulfattah were married in St. Philip the Apostle Catholic Church in Green Bay. He got his PhD in international politics the next year, and then they had another child, a girl named Mona. After she and Jandali divorced in 1962, Joanne embarked on a dreamy and peripatetic life that her daughter, who grew up to become the acclaimed novelist Mona Simpson, would capture in her book Anywhere but Here. Because Steve’s adoption had been closed, it would be twenty years before they would all find each other. Steve Jobs knew from an early age that he was adopted. “My parents were very open with me about that,” he recalled. He had a vivid memory of sitting on the lawn of his house, when he was six or seven years old, telling the girl who lived across the street. “So does that mean your real parents didn’t want you?” the girl asked. “Lightning bolts went off in my head,” according to Jobs. “I remember running into the house, crying. And my parents said, ‘No, you have to understand.’ They were very serious and looked me straight in the eye. They said, ‘We specifically picked you out.’ Both of my parents said that and repeated it slowly for me. And they put an emphasis on every word in that sentence.” Abandoned. Chosen. Special. Those concepts became part of who Jobs was and how he regarded himself. His closest friends think that the knowledge that he was given up at birth left some scars. “I think his desire for complete control of whatever he makes derives directly from his personality and the fact that he was abandoned at birth,” said one longtime colleague, Del Yocam. “He wants to control his environment, and he sees the product as an extension of himself.” Greg Calhoun, who became close to Jobs right after college, saw another effect. “Steve talked to me a lot about being abandoned and the pain that caused,” he said. “It made him independent. He followed the beat of a different drummer, and that came from being in a different world than he was born into.” Later in life, when he was the same age his biological father had been when he abandoned him, Jobs would father and abandon a child of his own. (He eventually took responsibility for her.) Chrisann Brennan, the mother of that child, said that being put up for adoption left Jobs “full of broken glass,” and it helps to explain some of his behavior. “He who is abandoned is an abandoner,” she said. Andy Hertzfeld, who worked with Jobs at Apple in the early 1980s, is among the few who remained close to both Brennan and Jobs. “The key question about Steve is why he can’t control himself at times from being so reflexively cruel and harmful to some people,” he said. “That goes back to being abandoned at birth. The real underlying problem was the theme of abandonment in Steve’s life.” Jobs dismissed this. “There’s some notion that because I was abandoned, I worked very hard so I could do well and make my parents wish they had me back, or some such nonsense, but that’s ridiculous,” he insisted. “Knowing I was adopted may have made me feel more independent, but I have never felt abandoned. I’ve always felt special. My parents made me feel special.” He would later bristle whenever anyone referred to Paul and Clara Jobs as his “adoptive” parents or implied that they were not his “real” parents. “They were my parents 1,000%,” he said. When speaking about his biological parents, on the other hand, he was curt: “They were my sperm and egg bank. That’s not harsh, it’s just the way it was, a sperm bank thing, nothing more.” Silicon Valley The childhood that Paul and Clara Jobs created for their new son was, in many ways, a stereotype of the late 1950s. When Steve was two they adopted a girl they named Patty, and three years later they moved to a tract house in the suburbs. The finance company where Paul worked as a repo man, CIT, had transferred him down to its Palo Alto office, but he could not afford to live there, so they landed in a subdivision in Mountain View, a less expensive town just to the south. There Paul tried to pass along his love of mechanics and cars. “Steve, this is your workbench now,” he said as he marked off a section of the table in their garage. Jobs remembered being impressed by his father’s focus on craftsmanship. “I thought my dad’s sense of design was pretty good,” he said, “because he knew how to build anything. If we needed a cabinet, he would build it. When he built our fence, he gave me a hammer so I could work with him.” Fifty years later the fence still surrounds the back and side yards of the house in Mountain View. As Jobs showed it off to me, he caressed the stockade panels and recalled a lesson that his father implanted deeply in him. It was important, his father said, to craft the backs of cabinets and fences properly, even though they were hidden. “He loved doing things right. He even cared about the look of the parts you couldn’t see.” His father continued to refurbish and resell used cars, and he festooned the garage with pictures of his favorites. He would point out the detailing of the design to his son: the lines, the vents, the chrome, the trim of the seats. After work each day, he would change into his dungarees and retreat to the garage, often with Steve tagging along. “I figured I could get him nailed down with a little mechanical ability, but he really wasn’t interested in getting his hands dirty,” Paul later recalled. “He never really cared too much about m189. It requires hard work to give off an appearance of effortlessness. 你必须十分努力,才能看起来毫不费力。190. Life is like riding a bicycle.To keep your balance,you must keep moving. 人生就像骑单车,只有不断前进,才能保持平衡。(爱因斯坦) 191. Be thankful for what you have.You'll end up having more. 拥有一颗感恩的心,最终你会得到更多。192. Beauty is how you feel inside, and it reflects in your eyes. 美是一种内心的感觉,并反映在你的眼睛里。(索菲亚·罗兰) 193. Friendship doubles your joys, and divides your sorrows. 朋友的作用,就是让你快乐加倍,痛苦减半。194. When you long for something sincerely, the whole world will help you. 当你真心渴望某样东西时,整个宇宙都会来帮忙。echanical things.” “I wasn’t that into fixing cars,” Jobs admitted. “But I was eager to hang out with my dad.” Even as he was growing more aware that he had been adopted, he was becoming more attached to his father. One day when he was about eight, he discovered a photograph of his father from his time in the Coast Guard. “He’s in the engine room, and he’s got his shirt off and looks like James Dean. It was one of those Oh wow moments for a kid. Wow, oooh, my parents were actually once very young and really good-looking.” Through cars, his father gave Steve his first exposure to electronics. “My dad did not have a deep understanding of electronics, but he’d encountered it a lot in automobiles and other things he would fix. He showed me the rudiments of electronics, and I got very interested in that.” Even more interesting were the trips to scavenge for parts. “Every weekend, there’d be a junkyard trip. We’d be looking for a generator, a carburetor, all sorts of components.” He remembered watching his father negotiate at the counter. “He was a good bargainer, because he knew better than the guys at the counter what the parts should cost.” This helped fulfill the pledge his parents made when he was adopted. “My college fund came from my dad paying $50 for a Ford Falcon or some other beat-up car that didn’t run, working on it for a few weeks, and selling it for $250—and not telling the IRS.” The Jobses’ house and the others in their neighborhood were built by the real estate developer Joseph Eichler, whose company spawned more than eleven thousand homes in various California subdivisions between 1950 and 1974. Inspired by Frank Lloyd Wright’s vision of simple modern homes for the American “everyman,” Eichler built inexpensive houses that featured floor-to-ceiling glass walls, open floor plans, exposed post-and-beam construction, concrete slab floors, and lots of sliding glass doors. “Eichler did a great thing,” Jobs said on one of our walks around the neighborhood. “His houses were smart and cheap and good. They brought clean design and simple taste to lower-income people. They had awesome little features, like radiant heating in the floors. You put carpet on them, and we had nice toasty floors when we were kids.” Jobs said that his appreciation for Eichler homes instilled in him a passion for making nicely designed products for the mass market. “I love it when you can bring really great design and simple capability to something that doesn’t cost much,” he said as he pointed out the clean elegance of the houses. “It was the original vision for Apple. That’s what we tried to do with the first Mac. That’s what we did with the iPod.” Across the street from the Jobs family lived a man who had become successful as a real estate agent. “He wasn’t that bright,” Jobs recalled, “but he seemed to be making a fortune. So my dad thought, ‘I can do that.’ He worked so hard, I remember. He took these night classes, passed the license test, and got into real estate. Then the bottom fell out of the market.” As a result, the family found itself financially strapped for a year or so while Steve was in elementary school. His mother took a job as a bookkeeper for Varian Associates, a company that made scientific instruments, and they took out a second mortgage. One day his fourth-grade teacher asked him, “What is it you don’t understand about the universe?” Jobs replied, “I don’t understand why all of a sudden my dad is so broke.” He was proud that his father never adopted a servile attitude or slick style that may have made him a better salesman. “You had to suck up to people to sell real estate, and he wasn’t good at that and it wasn’t in his nature. I admired him for that.” Paul Jobs went back to being a mechanic. His father was calm and gentle, traits that his son later praised more than emulated. He was also resolute. Jobs described one exampl What made the neighborhood different from the thousands of other spindly-tree subdivisions across America was that even the ne’er-do-wells tended to be engineers. “When we moved here, there were apricot and plum orchards on all of these corners,” Jobs recalled. “But it was beginning to boom because of military investment.” He soaked up the history of the valley and developed a yearning to play his own role. Edwin Land of Polaroid later told him about being asked by Eisenhower to help build the U-2 spy plane cameras to see how real the Soviet threat was. The film was dropped in canisters and returned to the NASA Ames Research Center in Sunnyvale, not far from where Jobs lived. “The first computer terminal I ever saw was when my dad brought me to the Ames Center,” he said. “I fell totally in love with it.” Other defense contractors sprouted nearby during the 1950s. The Lockheed Missiles and Space Division, which built submarine-launched ballistic missiles, was founded in 1956 next to the NASA Center; by the time Jobs moved to the area four years later, it employed twenty thousand people. A few hundred yards away, Westinghouse built facilities that produced tubes and electrical transformers for the missile systems. “You had all these military companies on the cutting edge,” he recalled. “It was mysterious and high-tech and made living here very exciting.” In the wake of the defense industries there arose a booming economy based on technology. Its roots stretched back to 1938, when David Packard and his new wife moved into a house in Palo Alto that had a shed where his friend Bill Hewlett was soon ensconced. The house had a garage—an appendage that would prove both useful and iconic in the valley—in which they tinkered around until they had their first product, an audio oscillator. By the 1950s, Hewlett-Packard was a fast-growing company making technical instruments. Fortunately there was a place nearby for entrepreneurs who had outgrown their garages. In a move that would help transform the area into the cradle of the tech revolution, Stanford University’s dean of engineering, Frederick Terman, created a seven-hundred-acre industrial park on university land for private companies that could commercialize the ideas of his students. Its first tenant was Varian Associates, where Clara Jobs worked. “Terman came up with this great idea that did more than anything to cause the tech industry to grow up here,” Jobs said. By the time Jobs was ten, HP had nine thousand employees and was the blue-chip company where every engineer seeking financial stability wanted to work. The most important technology for the region’s growth was, of course, the semiconductor. William Shockley, who had been one of the inventors of the transistor at Bell Labs in New Jersey, moved out to Mountain View and, in 1956, started a company to build transistors using silicon rather than the more expensive germanium that was then commonly used. But Shockley became increasingly erratic and abandoned his silicon transistor project, which led eight of his engineers—most notably Robert Noyce and Gordon Moore—to break away to form Fairchild Semiconductor. That company grew to twelve thousand employees, but it fragmented in 1968, when Noyce lost a power struggle to become CEO. He took Gordon Moore and founded a company that they called Integrated Electronics Corporation, which they soon smartly abbreviated to Intel. Their third employee was Andrew Grove, who later would grow the company by shifting its focus from memory chips to microprocessors. Within a few years there would be more than fifty companies in the area making semiconductors. The exponential growth of this industry was correlated with the phenomenon famously discovered by Moore, who in 1965 drew a graph of the speed of integrated circuits, based on the number of transistors that could be placed on a chip, and showed that it doubled about every two years, a trajectory that could be expected to continue. This was reaffirmed in 1971, when Intel was able to etch a complete central processing unit onto one chip, the Intel 4004, tronic amplifier. “So I raced home, and I told my dad that he was wrong.” “No, it needs an amplifier,” his father assured him. When Steve protested otherwise, his father said he was crazy. “It can’t work without an amplifier. There’s some trick.” “I kept saying no to my dad, telling him he had to see it, and finally he actually walked down with me and saw it. And he said, ‘Well I’ll be a bat out of hell.’” Jobs recalled the incident vividly because it was his first realization that his father did not know everything. Then a more disconcerting discovery began to dawn on him: He was smarter than his parents. He had always admired his father’s competence and savvy. “He was not an educated man, but I had always thought he was pretty damn smart. He didn’t read much, but he could do a lot. Almost everything mechanical, he could figure it out.” Yet the carbon microphone incident, Jobs said, began a jarring process of realizing that he was in fact more clever and quick than his parents. “It was a very big moment that’s burned into my mind. When I realized that I was smarter than my parents, I felt tremendous shame for having thought that. I will never forget that moment.” This discovery, he later told friends, along with the fact that he was adopted, made him feel apart—detached and separate—from both his family and the world. Another layer of awareness occurred soon after. Not only did he discover that he was brighter than his parents, but he discovered that they knew this. Paul and Clara Jobs were loving parents, and they were willing to adapt their lives to suit a son who was very smart—and also willful. They would go to great lengths to accommodate him. And soon Steve discovered this fact as well. “Both my parents got me. They felt a lot of responsibility once they sensed that I was special. They found ways to keep feeding me stuff and putting me in better schools. They were willing to defer to my needs.” So he grew up not only with a sense of having once been abandoned, but also with a sense that he was special. In his own mind, that was more important in the formation of his personality. School Even before Jobs started elementary school, his mother had taught him how to read. This, however, led to some problems once he got to school. “I was kind of bored for the first few years


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    indy 发表于 2019-12-4 21:56
    就事论事很难做到吗,看看下面这个

    就事论事啊。。被关251天,然后撤销起诉,无罪施放啦。敲诈勒索不成立。。这是事实。
    说那么黑手啥的,就能掩盖这个被无罪关押251天的事实吗?。。就事论事,那就讨论这个吧。
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    indy 发表于 2019-12-4 22:02
    让子弹多飞一会嘛
    https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/BshDwuVAtnrM6TpH3ZbZiw

    这篇都没证据。。有铁证,就按菊厂自己说的,拿起法律武器起诉李某某。再把他送进去关几年。。这么大的企业,这么多的人才,居然哭诉李某某太狡猾,居然留录音笔。。
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    王不留 发表于 2019-12-4 22:23
    就事论事啊。。被关251天,然后撤销起诉,无罪施放啦。敲诈勒索不成立。。这是事实。
    说那么黑手啥的,就 ...

    法律认定当然是需要石锤证据;同时,我觉得第五楼里面的推断和补充更符合实际发生的情况,李某绝对不像他自己单方面说的那么无辜无暇

    作为吃瓜大众一员,鉴于过去几年若干类似热点事件的反复反转,我觉得还是让子弹多飞飞,不必急于采取立场提前下结论
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    王不留 发表于 2019-12-4 22:28
    这篇都没证据。。有铁证,就按菊厂自己说的,拿起法律武器起诉李某某。再把他送进去关几年。。这么大的企 ...

    [转贴]

    @春花秋月 那楚风说的是那么回事。 我和HW打了20几年,05年之前我几乎就是和HW对抗的第一线,啥价格战,诉讼战,供货商战都是直接指挥团队的。 要黑HW 有大把理由和素材[偷笑]
    但内心要有个衡量,昧着良心黑对手肯定做不出来。
    这事背后是啥情况,咱大致看看各方说的,就能搞明白咋回事了。 这样的事每年都好多起,见惯不惯了。 [偷笑][偷笑]

    虽然HW不在乎逆变器那点业绩,但产品团队和部门要业绩,光电逆变那领域,前几年肯定是要依赖国家补贴的,否则喝西北风啊。把业绩涂抹得好看些是那行业圈子的不成文的规则

    李是合同管理员。捏着“造假”的把柄。内部规则呢又不允许造假(大企业,不可能明面上鼓励造假,就看盯得紧不紧而已)。因此内部举报呢,可以搞自己领导,当然也得罪全部门全产品线的同事。

    外部如果举报呢,那就是大事了,轻则取消补贴,重则坐牢。这也是那个何被拿捏着,自己掏钱的原因

    何敢于起诉HW,估计也是自认为拿捏着HW不敢对外承认合同造假翩布帖,敢于开口。 而HW呢,倒不是在乎那20万,而是已经感觉到这哥们是个无底洞,不可预判未来的行为的那种人,因此,利刃在手杀心顿起。 如此而已。

    李某敢于起诉HW,估计也是自认为拿捏着HW不敢对外承认合同造假翩布帖,才敢于那样开口。 而HW呢,倒不是在乎再多给那20万,而是已经感觉到这哥们是个无底洞,不靠谱,不可预判下一步的行为的那种人,因此,利刃在手杀心顿起。 如此而已。 李这哥们在内部12年,又是第一线的职能线,估计也见惯了东家的手段,策划准备得非常严谨。 这个不得不服。

    HW呢,也没想到遇到的是这么个狠角色。hw在这里面的动作,指望多么白白,那是不可能的。就看上面要不要动,成心要动,从查π初索的角度,肯定也能扯出H施加影响力的线索


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    https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/Wc_XmRXCmPdlgip5oWvLWA
    李洪元绝对是个小人,以及华为到底错在哪?[color=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.3)]From: [color=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.3)]老凤1974 [url=]圣谛[/url] [color=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.3)]Yesterday

    讲真这次F7事件,我绝对没想到能搞这么大,背后到底有啥我不去猜测。以我对F7实力的认知,早就应该全网压下去才对的。

    但我看了两天,内心蛮失望的,为啥呢?因为所有的媒体都把视线集中在事件经过上,但大家要知道,别说一件千里之外的事,就算你身边,你自己的事,就能说得清楚吗?如果说得清楚就没有家庭矛盾和纠纷了,多半是陷入公说公有理,婆说婆有理的罗生门

    我实在是忍不住,给你们讲讲在一个老江湖会怎么看这件事。

    我可以负责任的跟你们讲,李洪元绝对是个小人!这是我第一天看了最初步的资料就有数的,我相信其他老江湖也跟我一样有数。

    为啥呢?因为他太热衷“幸进”了!啥叫幸进?就是不按照正常程序,渴望一步登天。

    我不用F7的说法,我就用李洪元自己的。12年到15级,进步非常非常非常慢,说明这个人在公司混得一般。现在看他什么用录音笔啊之类的手法,又觉得这个人很聪明不简单。矛盾吗?不矛盾!

    因为F7是个大公司,大公司基本都是层级管理官僚结构,按部就班往上爬有几条要点,第一就是不得罪人,第二是工作上有说得出的业绩。注意,不是拿得出,而是说得出。我相信李洪元这两点都没达到。如果一般人没达到就算了,但他绝对是个非常非常热衷进步的人。

    于是就想到幸进这条路子。古代皇帝看中哪个布衣白身,要大力提拔的时候大臣都会建议不能这样,因为这样会开幸进之门,让大家都不按程序,天天琢磨着直接见皇帝了,说明只要是官僚机构,都反感这种做法。

    而李洪元,恰恰想通过这种手法上位。

    有证据吗?有!李洪元自己说自己去堵过任正非,任正非没理他,他还用范雎说秦王的典故。讲真如果是那种没啥底蕴又喜欢搞点国学装门面的傻老板,没准这招还真有用,结果老任没理他,老任也是老江湖啊!

    李洪元要直接见老任相当于什么呢?相当于一个小科长,整天要去跟部长直接沟通谈话。我想任何一个部长如果理这个茬,他啥都别干了,天天在办公室24小时搞接待都来不及。

    在公司的举报和出狱后口口声声要占用老任一杯咖啡的时间,全部是这个思路,就算到这会,他都没死心。可以说幸进已成他的执念!

    我最反感他这句话:大家看看先,要听全国人民的!卧槽你啥意思?你自己要起诉就起诉,你个小小李洪元,还学会绑架民意了!你配吗?

    历史上有没有这种人呢?不出名的小人物我不知道,有大名气的大人物有两个,一个明末袁崇焕,一个清末康有为。都是这种热衷上位不顾一切的家伙,袁崇焕是吹牛逼不打草稿,知道崇祯忧虑边患直接打包票五年平辽请陛下放心,他自己知道平不了,反正先吹的让皇帝高兴,拿到辽西总督的位子再说;另一个呢,口口声声忠君爱国,其实无论君王还是国家都是康有为的道具,猛搞猛弄,搞成就帝师重臣名垂千古,搞不成跑路也是舆论领袖

    他们遇到的都是毫无江湖经验的崇祯和光绪,这种人要碰到朱元璋皇太极,客气点就赶出去有多远死多远,不客气直接抓去喂老虎。

    这种人在体系内特别招人厌恶,他举报内部人造假也是一个道理,真是为了公司?狗屁!但这种话呢,内部知情人没法说出口,说出来也不好听。为啥没法说,因为李洪元占理啊,你们是造假啊!怎么我举报错了吗?我维护公司利益错了吗?

    你看,理都在他那,这就是孔子说的,硁硁然小人哉。就是一副我有理,怎么啦!梗着脖子装正义的样子。

    我理解华为的心态,真是要多腻味有多腻味,比吃了苍蝇还难受。

    但是,这样的人再怎么讨厌怎么让人厌恶,华为报个警送他去坐牢还是过分了!这就是手持利刃,杀心自起。

    华为在当地乃至全国的影响力那是毋庸讳言,国家对他的支持也是有目共睹,更别说民众的支持了。

    越是有大实力和影响力,越是要警惕戒惧,因为水能载舟亦能覆舟,你说你动不动就拿司法公器为自己企业内部事务开路,看上去是痛快了,其实后患无穷!且不说这次地方司法都被你们架上了火架子,就说这种手法用多了,绝对会产生依赖性。

    有事第一反应就是直接上刀把子!讲真如果真的犯罪事实确凿,比如贪污公款出卖机密之类,你用用地方司法就算了,李洪元这种小人的小事你也用一下?这种事难道不是让人事去扯皮就可以了吗,难道不是走到仲裁就足够了吗?这样做滥用权力的过分了,滥用权力结局就是失去权力,你说说现在你真有事报警,地方司法是不是要踟蹰犹豫一下?以前保证跑的很欢的。

    再说民意,民意啥样不用我说了吧!以前大公主写点啥大家啥反应,现在啥反应?毕竟代入大公主的生活难,代入李洪元倒是很容易。这个小人啊,还真起到君子起不到的作用了!

    这样的玩法,不仅员工,就算合作方,内心是不是也怕了你?所有人都恐惧的企业,最后会是什么结局呢?我用脚趾头都能想到 。对了,我也怕的。能挟国家意志和民意支持的东西,我都感到害怕。

    只是,当你凝视深渊,深渊也在凝视你!

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    就事论事,华为也该整顿整顿了。我不否认他们的确做了不少研发,但是华为做事比较野也是公认的事实。一个像样的企业,做事规范是必须的,不可以因为据说是为国争光了,在其它地方就可以放松,这个逻辑不成立!
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    民族矛盾和阶级矛盾

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    老兵帅客 发表于 2019-12-4 22:56
    就事论事,华为也该整顿整顿了。我不否认他们的确做了不少研发,但是华为做事比较野也是公认的事实。一个像 ...

    你真的觉得那些黑华为的真的满足于整顿华为而已吗

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     楼主| 发表于 2019-12-5 00:43:23 | 只看该作者
    【转:华为员工谈李洪元】
    251的当事人,虽然不是我直接的同事,但是因为我的岗位关系,我每天都能够接触到逆变器产品线的不少老员工。所以也算是可以给大家带来第1.5手信息吧。
    这位同学本身是做销管的,工作13年却只升到15级。这个履历本身就非常奇怪,就算是一个极其平庸的人,也很难是这样一份履历。一般最常见的情况是这个人肯定很怪。在逆变器的至少三位老员工眼里,他是怎么样个怪法呢?庸庸碌碌,没人知道他在做什么,输出件质量一般。是存在感极低,但是有一点很出名。就是他收费替大家抢华为手机。而且每次都抢得到(这事得有多闲,工作不饱满吗)。他能在那个部门混13年,实在是因为那个部门没有搞运动,不然早就裁他了。所以在逆变器老员工的眼里,这个人不应该这么能战斗,不应该说出那样的话,不是他的风格。所以老员工们的第一反应是有人在教他。
    这个人在部门里口碑是中等偏下,爱说怪话(说怪话,在菊厂内部是一个专有名词)。正常n+1的补偿,就他这个工作表现和绩效水平要到2n是不可能的。而且逆变器产品线原来在我们内部曾经有一段时间关于销售业务造假闹得沸沸扬扬,如果说他借的这个理由来,讹诈公司,在菊厂员工看来不觉得奇怪。我们都是奋斗者,而他明显不是,没人把他当兄弟。说句不客气的话,如果一定要给他贴标签,那菊厂的我们会给他贴个标签,一定是:平庸的,爱抱怨的混子

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    他也有可能是被某些势力利用了,但弄到这么大,他下场恐怕不乐观。
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    indy 发表于 2019-12-4 11:19
    你真的觉得那些黑华为的真的满足于整顿华为而已吗

    是否满足与是否应该整顿是两回事。

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    老兵帅客 发表于 2019-12-4 11:49
    是否满足与是否应该整顿是两回事。


    同意!

    要是老毛在,他一定两个都整顿,而且两手都硬!!!

    而且还要写篇文章:贸易战期间对华为错误的批评!

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    在我看来,把华为等同于爱国,和开日本车当作汉奸,两种思维模式差不多。

    当然,我承认,电子界的华为,和汽车界的丰田本田,在各自的领域都是非常优秀的企业。

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    这件事过早下结论都容易被事后打脸,我觉得不翻转个3回都是弄不清真相的,也许永远弄不清。
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    老兵帅客 发表于 2019-12-4 22:56
    就事论事,华为也该整顿整顿了。我不否认他们的确做了不少研发,但是华为做事比较野也是公认的事实。一个像 ...

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    南京老萝卜 发表于 2019-12-5 05:14
    在我看来,把华为等同于爱国,和开日本车当作汉奸,两种思维模式差不多。

    当然,我承认,电子界的华为,和 ...

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