洗心 发表于 2015-9-21 03:13:01

今天去一德国人的party, 说起本地一家正在等审批的车臣难民,来的时候是一家五口, 等审批这四年又快速生了两个。现在开始打小孩牌,孩子在这里生的,从小长在这里的,遣返回去太不人道了。

MacArthur 发表于 2015-9-21 03:38:43

洗心 发表于 2015-9-18 09:51
没有最奇葩,只有更奇葩

奥地利小镇St Kanzian20名“难民”绝食,要求获得每月2000欧元的零花钱


傻!干嘛不多要点儿?一月两万,起码的
{:191:}

jellobean 发表于 2015-9-21 03:47:22

MacArthur 发表于 2015-9-21 03:38
傻!干嘛不多要点儿?一月两万,起码的

还是麦帅大方

洗心 发表于 2015-9-21 14:47:10

MacArthur 发表于 2015-9-21 03:38
傻!干嘛不多要点儿?一月两万,起码的

我要到你家做难民{:203:}

洗心 发表于 2015-9-24 04:17:59

http://www.focus.de/politik/deutschland/imam-verweigerte-handschlag-kloeckner-fordert-gesetz-zur-integrationspflicht-fuer-fluechtlinge_id_4965163.html

“难民”拒绝和女政治家握手,这是难民还是来做老爷的啊?这种垃圾就应该直接送回去。

洗心 发表于 2015-9-24 06:43:52

一年前的旧闻

【德意志斯坦:伊斯兰教法警察巡街】连续数天,德国好几座城市街头出现穿着印有“伊斯兰教法警察”字样马甲的穆斯林青年晚间巡街,在酒吧、迪厅、赌场前,劝阻其他穆斯林不要出入以上场所,试图说服这些人遵守伊斯兰教法。此举在德国掀起轩然大波,民众恐慌、媒体讨伐、政客谴责。

http://www.thelocal.de/20140909/germanys-sharia-police-testing-rule-of-law

洗心 发表于 2015-9-24 06:47:57

这个是最近的
德国一清真寺协会涉嫌招募极端武装分子被警方搜查
http://www.chinanews.com/tp/hd2011/2015/09-22/565795.shtml

洗心 发表于 2015-9-24 19:55:22

华盛顿邮报:大量各色人等伪装成叙利亚人进入欧洲。包括伊朗人,不会说阿语的印度人说自己是从大马士革来的,还有巴基斯坦、阿尔巴尼亚、埃及、科索沃、索马里、突尼斯人,里面罪犯、贩毒的、IS都有。O网页链接 链接里面有许多酷图,里面有很多壮爷们嚎哭

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/migrants-are-disguising-themselves-as-syrians-to-gain-entry-to-europe/2015/09/22/827c6026-5bd8-11e5-8475-781cc9851652_story.html

Migrants are disguising themselves as Syrians to enter Europe

A look at the numbers behind the stream of refugees flowing into Europe as political leaders struggle to ease the burden. (Jason Aldag/The Washington Post)
By Souad Mekhennet and William Booth September 23 at 10:09 AM

VIENNA — Moving among the tens of thousands of Syrian war refugees passing through the train stations of Europe are many who are neither Syrian nor refugees, but hoping to blend into the mass migration and find a back door to the West.

There are well-dressed Iranians speaking Farsi who insist they are members of the persecuted Yazidis of Iraq. There are Indians who don’t speak Arabic but say they are from Damascus. There are Pakistanis, Albanians, Egyptians, Kosovars, Somalis and Tunisians from countries with plenty of poverty and violence, but no war.

It should come as no surprise that many migrants seem to be pretending they are someone else. The prize, after all, is the possibility of benefits, residency and work in Europe.

Leaders in Germany and other European states say they are prepared to award asylum to legitimate refugees from countries such as Syria, Iraq and Eritrea, but they are issuing more strident warnings that they will reject many of the economic migrants streaming over their borders.



“What we see here has nothing to do with seeking refuge and safety,” Austrian Interior Minister Johanna Mikl-Leitner said Monday. “It is nothing but opportunism.”

Many of the asylum seekers tell journalists and aid workers that they are from Syria, even if they are not, under the assumption that a Syrian shoemaker fleeing bombed-out Aleppo will be welcome, while a computer programmer from Kosovo will not be.

It is common knowledge on the migratory route that some who are not from Syria shred their real passports in Turkey and simply fake it.

A couple of reporters, one a native Arabic speaker, who wandered through train stations in Vienna found plenty of newcomers whose accents did not match their stories and whose stories did not make sense.

Swimming in the river of humanity are shady characters, too, admitted criminals, Islamic State sympathizers and a couple of guys from Fallujah, one with a fresh bullet wound, who when asked their occupation seemed confused.

“Army,” said one. His friend corrected him. “We’re all drivers,” he said.


Some of the most powerful images of Europe’s migrant emergency
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Waves of migrants continue to head to Europe despite new efforts to tighten borders.

The refugees report that a forged Syrian passport can be bought on the Turkish border for as little as $200. A reporter for Britain’s Daily Mail bought a Syrian passport, ID card and driver’s license for $2,000 in Turkey under the name of a real man who was killed in the conflict.

An Austrian security official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, said there are also thriving black markets for Syrian passports in Croatia, Serbia, Hungary and Austria. But most are arriving in Vienna without ever having shown a passport or document to officials, as long as they travel in the stream of asylum seekers. Authorities along the way may ask for names and countries of origin, but they are not scrutinizing documents. Opportunists can easily pass through borders simply claiming to be Syrians, often without offering any proof.

There are enough pretenders that true Syrians complain about ersatz Syrians.

Syrian war refugees said Europe offered a welcome to them but that opportunists will quickly wear out the continent’s welcome, if they haven’t already.

“Look at these people, what are they doing here? We are the ones who are fleeing from war and slaughter, and now these men are taking away our space,” said Mustafa, 62, from Syria. He had stopped to help a woman who had fainted, letting a group of Afghans use the opportunity to cut in line.

“I don’t understand — we thought the Europeans invited Syrians like us to come,” said one of Mustafa’s companions.
Blending in with real refugees

At Vienna Westbahnhof railway station, a tight clutch of men lined up at the ticket windows. Days of rough travel lay behind them. All had one aim: Germany.

When asked by a reporter where they were from, the men answered, “We are from Syria.”

When a reporter switched to the North African dialect, the men laughed nervously. “We are Algerians,” they admitted.

Hamza, 27, is from Algiers. “I am illegal, not refugee,” he said. “In my country, the only thing you can do there is either drugs or crimes. So I was in prison several times, for drugs, also for trying to kill another guy.”

Hamza and his mates went to Turkey because the smuggling route to Sardinia has been shut down.

“We flew to Istanbul and then took a bus to Izmir. There we destroyed our passports and just mixed with the Syrian refugees. We then took the boat from Izmir to Greece. From there to Macedonia, Serbia, Hungary and now we are in Vienna,” he said.

Did Hamza feel guilty? Not at all.

“It’s really easy now to travel with these refugees. We received food and shelter, and a nice welcoming from people so far.”

He said he has met Tunisians, Moroccans and Libyans playing the same game.

“So when someone asks us, where do you live? We say Damascus. Where are you from? Answer Syria.”

An Austrian aid volunteer at the train station, Hisham Fares, is of Libyan descent and has worked as an interpreter helping asylum seekers find their way in the present confusion.



“There are people who are trying to benefit from the situation. I’ve met Egyptians who claimed they were Syrians, but the dialect is Egyptian. I’ve also met people from Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia or Libya who all are now flying to Istanbul and then go to Izmir where they destroy passports,” Fares said. “I’ve also met Palestinians who live in camps in Lebanon and now claim they were from Yarmouk camp in Syria. Many of them said they have family in Germany and just use this situation to finally get asylum.”

“Most of these people say they’ve lost their passports,” Fares added. “The sad thing is that those Syrians who really are fleeing war will be the ones paying the price.”

Another group of men, standing in line for free food, spoke English among themselves but with an Indian accent.

One said his name was “Hassan.”

“We grew up in Syria; our fathers worked there for many years,” Hassan said.

He had worked in Syria, in a bank, in Damascus, he said.

When a reporter spoke to them in Arabic, the men smiled and said, “No Arabic, only English.” Asked where they lived in Damascus, they couldn’t really say.

They excused themselves and wandered away.
Screening out impostors

Confronting a surge in migrants falsely claiming to be from war-torn nations, European authorities are seeking to bolster screening efforts, particularly at gateway nations such as Greece and Italy.

Ewa Moncure, a spokeswoman for Frontex, the European Union’s border agency, said officials are deploying interpreters to assess accents and are using geographic and other questions to weed out pretenders.

“You have interpreters working with officers, and they are asking questions,” she said. “If someone claims to be from Syria and he can’t say what the currency is or what the main street is in Damascus, there are going to be questions about his claim.”

Frontex, she said, is moving to double its staff in Greece in the coming weeks to at least 140 people, an effort that may help the agency identify more false refugees. Those identified as such, she said, should be detained and processed for rapid deportations.

But Greece has been so overwhelmed by the sheer numbers that many are slipping through.

Most economic migrants and war refugees in Vienna say they have arrived without being photographed, fingerprinted or subjected to biometric measurements. Some of the new arrivals will make claims to stay based on threat of persecution because of clan or religion; others may seek to be reunited with family already in Europe. And some may never try to become legal residents, but live in the shadows.

It will take months to sort out their stories.

Anthony Faiola in Berlin contributed to this report.

pcb 发表于 2015-9-24 20:42:22

洗心 发表于 2015-9-24 19:55
华盛顿邮报:大量各色人等伪装成叙利亚人进入欧洲。包括伊朗人,不会说阿语的印度人说自己是从大马士革来的 ...

“不会说阿语的印度人说自己是从大马士革来的”
又见A3,很欢乐啊

洗心 发表于 2015-9-24 22:25:05

pcb 发表于 2015-9-24 20:42
“不会说阿语的印度人说自己是从大马士革来的”
又见A3,很欢乐啊

好在到现在为止还没有中国人,要不太丢脸了。

pcb 发表于 2015-9-24 22:32:31

洗心 发表于 2015-9-24 22:25
好在到现在为止还没有中国人,要不太丢脸了。

参加叙利亚圣战的苇子们呢?
应该大张旗鼓地把这些遣送回国

洗心 发表于 2015-9-24 22:34:41

pcb 发表于 2015-9-24 22:32
参加叙利亚圣战的苇子们呢?
应该大张旗鼓地把这些遣送回国

据说ISIS有个维吾尔营,也别遣送了,我希望普京一颗炸弹丢下去。

洗心 发表于 2015-9-24 23:02:42

e-archivo.uc3m.es/bitstream/handle/10016/18316/IC3JM-2014-284.pdf?sequence=3

这里倒是有个2014年的研究,西欧十国的研究表明,穆第一代移民男子劳动参与率的比例为70%,比当地人/欧裔移民/非欧裔移民/非穆斯林移民都低;穆二代男子55.9%,也是最低;穆一代妇女劳动参与率36%约为当地妇女的一半略强,显著低于其他移民;穆二代女性比穆第一代强一点,但比起当地人或者其他族群移民还是差远了。

吃福利真是他们的专长。

政府的猪头们不知道在干什么。

德国的同学们,准备迎接长期涨税吧。

@石头布 @莱茵河

洗心 发表于 2015-9-25 05:23:44

http://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2015/09/daily-chart-16?fsrc=scn/tw/te/dc/st/europeanasylumacceptanceanddenial

每日看图说话 欧洲难民危机( Main origin and destination countries* July 2014–July 2015)

http://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2015/09/daily-chart-16?fsrc=scn/tw/te/dc/st/europeanasylumacceptanceanddenial

我比较懒,贴图翻译解说之类的事情就交给@晨枫 晨老大 了。

洗心 发表于 2015-9-25 05:24:26

//@法兰西的故事: 法国有摩洛哥人,他们的法语非常好//@BastianDuan: 真相了[笑cry]\\@没有异议:而且。穆斯林在欧洲各国。都有自己的势力范围。彼此心照不宣。奥斯曼和叙利亚主攻德国。北非主攻法国。南亚主攻英国。摩洛哥主攻荷兰。埃及在南欧。虽然彼此地盘不是很明确。

又涨知识了。

石头布 发表于 2015-9-25 08:28:26

洗心 发表于 2015-9-24 23:02
e-archivo.uc3m.es/bitstream/handle/10016/18316/IC3JM-2014-284.pdf?sequence=3

这里倒是有个2014年的研 ...

要是LD再年轻几岁,我们就再生几个,把交的税吃回来。:curse:

燕庐敕 发表于 2015-9-25 09:33:31

石头布 发表于 2015-9-25 08:28
要是LD再年轻几岁,我们就再生几个,把交的税吃回来。

去找个阿拉伯小三!说什么也要吃回来!{:198:}

洗心 发表于 2015-9-25 19:26:03

石头布 发表于 2015-9-25 08:28
要是LD再年轻几岁,我们就再生几个,把交的税吃回来。

好主意。 要不把你家亲戚的孩子都领养到德国去? {:187:}

洗心 发表于 2015-9-25 19:30:22

其实比德国更圣母的是瑞典,人均接受难民数量是最多的。

长期失业者里面42%是难民,国家的福利58%给了难民。 学习成绩最差的孩子里45%是难民。
所以,不光是第一代不会为国家的养老保险医疗保险做贡献,第二代也很悬。第一代和第二代对国家的福利系统贡献估计是负的。

http://www.welt.de/debatte/kommentare/article146734281/Die-grosszuegigen-Schweden-zahlen-einen-hohen-Preis.html

所以瑞典反移民的右派党 Swedish Democrats 在2014年选举中一举成为第三大党。

洗心 发表于 2015-9-25 22:52:40

2015年8月1日德雷斯顿难民营100余人打群架(1)8月10日德雷斯顿难民营40余人又打群架(2)昨天9月24日莱比锡难难民营不到200人(各媒体人数不一样)打群架,叙利亚人和阿富汗人互殴(3)据预计,德国犯罪率将大幅上升。
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